Comments on: Talking http://www.burnsautoparts.com/blog/2009/06/12/talking/ Leslie Burns writes on the photo business and marketing Tue, 07 Feb 2012 04:43:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: jackie connelly http://www.burnsautoparts.com/blog/2009/06/12/talking/comment-page-1/#comment-40275 jackie connelly Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:54:19 +0000 http://www.burnsautoparts.com/blog/?p=1143#comment-40275 Leslie, I can relate to your point about photographers not showing up to these types of events, that if a level of time and effort is invested in, could help them get more clients and grow their business. After all, who doesn't want that? I'm in Vancouver BC (Canada!) and am on the Vancouver Chapter Board of a Canadian organization called CAPIC.org. We volunteer our time to sit on the Board, and all year long not only plan events for our photo + illustrator members with exactly these points in mind (how to get more clients, grow your business AND increase communication and knowledge sharing between photographers and illustrators), but also work on building membership, copyright issues, insurance, etc etc. We often have a very small number of people show up to the events we plan, and then others get a great turn out; there is little to no consistency in attendance no matter what we've tried to date. My point is that I think (a) I think this is an issue not specific to any one city or geographic area, and (b) there will always be the people that feel being part of a community, talking, sharing insight, will only open them up to being vulnerable, especially in their business, and thus choose to not participate. Speaking as a photographer, I am of the mindset that if we all ignore one another, keep our systems and processes and knowledge to ourselves, and don't teach the newest people in our industry, how on earth will things grow in a positive direction? They won't. Period. We must be open, we must share experiences, and in doing so we will strengthen the creative community. Phew, ok that's enough of me blathering on...apologies, I just feel very strongly about this issue! Cheers, ~ j Leslie,
I can relate to your point about photographers not showing up to these types of events, that if a level of time and effort is invested in, could help them get more clients and grow their business. After all, who doesn’t want that?

I’m in Vancouver BC (Canada!) and am on the Vancouver Chapter Board of a Canadian organization called CAPIC.org. We volunteer our time to sit on the Board, and all year long not only plan events for our photo + illustrator members with exactly these points in mind (how to get more clients, grow your business AND increase communication and knowledge sharing between photographers and illustrators), but also work on building membership, copyright issues, insurance, etc etc. We often have a very small number of people show up to the events we plan, and then others get a great turn out; there is little to no consistency in attendance no matter what we’ve tried to date.

My point is that I think (a) I think this is an issue not specific to any one city or geographic area, and (b) there will always be the people that feel being part of a community, talking, sharing insight, will only open them up to being vulnerable, especially in their business, and thus choose to not participate.

Speaking as a photographer, I am of the mindset that if we all ignore one another, keep our systems and processes and knowledge to ourselves, and don’t teach the newest people in our industry, how on earth will things grow in a positive direction? They won’t. Period. We must be open, we must share experiences, and in doing so we will strengthen the creative community.

Phew, ok that’s enough of me blathering on…apologies, I just feel very strongly about this issue!

Cheers,
~ j

]]> By: Rick D'Elia http://www.burnsautoparts.com/blog/2009/06/12/talking/comment-page-1/#comment-40043 Rick D'Elia Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:50:38 +0000 http://www.burnsautoparts.com/blog/?p=1143#comment-40043 Leslie, I too am in the Phoenix scene, friend of Tony's and also know the secret handshake. Our group here has taken time to develop to the huge gathering it is (even in the blazing summer)/ Time and word of mouth, will cause more people to make this a priority and cause it to grow. Leslie, I too am in the Phoenix scene, friend of Tony’s and also know the secret handshake. Our group here has taken time to develop to the huge gathering it is (even in the blazing summer)/ Time and word of mouth, will cause more people to make this a priority and cause it to grow.

]]> By: info http://www.burnsautoparts.com/blog/2009/06/12/talking/comment-page-1/#comment-39975 info Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:13:58 +0000 http://www.burnsautoparts.com/blog/?p=1143#comment-39975 I have got to get to Australia one of these days! :-) -Leslie I have got to get to Australia one of these days! :-)
-Leslie

]]> By: jon love http://www.burnsautoparts.com/blog/2009/06/12/talking/comment-page-1/#comment-39974 jon love Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:03:56 +0000 http://www.burnsautoparts.com/blog/?p=1143#comment-39974 Taking the liberty of speaking for many Australian photographers, we would all be there just for the beers, and everything else would have naturally evolved as it should; pity it was bit far to make it for the night.. Taking the liberty of speaking for many Australian photographers, we would all be there just for the beers, and everything else would have naturally evolved as it should; pity it was bit far to make it for the night..

]]> By: Rich Green http://www.burnsautoparts.com/blog/2009/06/12/talking/comment-page-1/#comment-39964 Rich Green Mon, 15 Jun 2009 17:40:26 +0000 http://www.burnsautoparts.com/blog/?p=1143#comment-39964 I've also been to several events where few photographers show. I don't understand it either. I’ve also been to several events where few photographers show. I don’t understand it either.

]]> By: Sean http://www.burnsautoparts.com/blog/2009/06/12/talking/comment-page-1/#comment-39940 Sean Sun, 14 Jun 2009 00:44:13 +0000 http://www.burnsautoparts.com/blog/?p=1143#comment-39940 I wonder if the reason more photographers don't show up at these types of events is that they aren't sure what to say when they are there. It's not for want of opportunity,as you point out, I suspect that it goes back to third grade in Mrs. Greenstein's class and you don't want to be the one who holds up your hand and says "I don't understand." It's much easier (though not more effective) to just not show up. As someone or other said: Winners make a habit of doing the things losers are uncomfortable doing. By the way, did you say there was beer being served? What has become of photographers? I wonder if the reason more photographers don’t show up at these types of events is that they aren’t sure what to say when they are there. It’s not for want of opportunity,as you point out, I suspect that it goes back to third grade in Mrs. Greenstein’s class and you don’t want to be the one who holds up your hand and says “I don’t understand.”

It’s much easier (though not more effective) to just not show up. As someone or other said: Winners make a habit of doing the things losers are uncomfortable doing.

By the way, did you say there was beer being served?

What has become of photographers?

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